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Oksana's first interview with Masha

In her interview for the exhibition, Masha says that she would prefer not to reveal the details of her relationship with parents. Four months after the interview was recorded, we have found this audio recording among Underwater's working materials. We considered it very important in the context of the exhibition, so we asked Masha if it could be included. This is her reply:

“The way I perceive this topic has probably changed during this summer. All because of the children whom I work with, and their parents, who constantly traumatize them. That’s why I want it to be a part of this exhibition. I realized the significance and importance of this experience for the younger generation.

Me and my story would be incomplete and incomprehensible without this.
After all, these traumas have shaped me and are a part of me.

I don’t want to discredit my family, but they are what they are, Orthodox homophobes and sexists. I cannot change their essence, they like to be what they are, since they don’t see any alternative and any different reality (like many parents of [the teenagers I’m working with]).

Regarding the parents… they are unlikely to ever hear all this.
And if they do, maybe they’ll finally understand something.”
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PRONINA_ZBIRKA_READING_0011 {2:29}
portraits of Masha and Vasya, 2020
MARSH_SVOBODY_0002 {2:13}
before the freedom march, posters, 2020
INTERVIEW_HOUSE_OF_EUROPE_0011 {24:00}
Masha reports on her work
with teenagers, 2020
PRONINA_ZBIRKA_
READING_0011 {2:29}
portraits of Masha
and Vasya, 2020
MARSH_SVOBODY_0002 {2:13}
before the freedom march, posters
INTERVIEW_HOUSE_
OF_EUROPE_0011
{24:00}
Masha reports on her work with teenagers, 2020